59 thoughts on “2013 Campton Cross Pix and Vids and Race Reports

  1. somebody tell a newbie crossover from motocross and mountain bikes… what’s the deal with licorice at the heckler confines of cyclocross? I think the heckling is hilarious, and NOTE TO SELF… todays mouthful of free twizzler in cat 5 was chock full O sand. thanks! I need the roughage.

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  2. I recently upgraded from Cat 4 to Cat 3 and I thought my crossresults.com points would count towards staging. I was staged in the last row of Cat 3 today. I did not see the discrepancy before the race, as I was just made aware of my mandatory upgrade yesterday and had to change my category this morning in person, so I did not see my staging position until I was called, or I would certainly have inquired about this before hand.

    How should I have been staged – according to my Cat 3 points, which was 0 before this race, or by my crossresults.com points, which would have put me in the second/third row or so?

    Thanks!

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    • CrossResults.com points are only applied for pre-reg’d riders. Although since you’ve never raced Cat 3 you should have been switched between categories and staged by CXR points instead of being entered in as a Day-Of registrant and staged at the back. Very sorry for the confusion and mistake.

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    • Way to move up in the pack, though! Pretty solid performance despite a bad start and a tough passing course. See ya in the 3’s next week.

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    • Great pictures. Thanks for using categories, easy to find pictures. Pleasure to support any photographer that takes the time to photograph the events.

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    • Very nice job, sweet layout. Being a former sports shooter, I appreciate your time and effort at these events.

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    • Thanks guys (and gals) for all the feedback. I really enjoy trying to capture the action for you, and what a great sport for it! Intensity, Skill, Endurance… Mud, Obstacles, Costumes, what a riot!

      My hats off to the organizers, and officials for putting such great community events together week after week- and to the racers for submitting themselves to the pain and punishment to hurt so good. And to the other photographers that have some really awesome shots as well.

      ~Matt

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    • … many thanks to the Organizers !!! I was on the wait list but they got me in. Great job guys, great course, great atmosphere, great hackling – tons of fun. This was my first cyclocross race and I will be coming back for more soon!

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  3. I really dislike attacking the USA Cycling Officials, knowing how difficult it can be to keep tallies on everyone in the race, especially with combined fields. But for the second week in a row I fell victim to problems in the scoring. Last week the error occurred in the fact that I wasn’t even placed in the results (even though I completed the race). Having to protest this I eventually had my position re-instated (which eventually occurred after checking several officials’ tally sheets). This week the problems with the 30+ field and single speed results were atrocious. There were no less than 10 riders scored in the top 30 that were lapped. The single speed also had many problems with the order of the riders. For the money that we pay to USAC I think it is more than appropriate to expect accurate results in a timely manner. I do understand that officials can make mistakes like me and everyone else. I just feel that it is not my total responsibility to have to wait for 30-40 minutes after each race to “check” the accuracy of results. Maybe I expect too much, but just wanted to get that out. Saying that, I do appreciate what the officials do on a weekly basis, just would like to avoid issues in the future.

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    • “I just feel that it is not my total responsibility to have to wait for 30-40 minutes after each race to “check” the accuracy of results.”

      Just out of curiosity, what is your bike racing experience prior to the chicrosscup? That’s about the standard everywhere I’ve ever raced.

      Also, have you ever worked one of these races? I sat at registration for a few hours yesterday. I’m surprised there aren’t more problems. I’m doubting there is a more well organized, efficient series of cross races anywhere in the midwest- if not the country.

      There are a lot of ways to solve the problems you complain of. The easiest would be to not race two races on course at one time, and aggressively pull riders on the very first lap. With masters having at least one (at a minimum) other chance to race, maybe 30+ should get nixed?

      Those officials are doing 6 jobs at once- scoring the current race, trying to finalize results of the last race, dealing with riders who show up after reg closes and are trying to get into the race anyway… Despite what we all pay USAC, those folks make a pittance for the amount of work they do over the course of a VERY long day. Waiting around a half hour to double-check your results seems like the least you could do for them in light of that.

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      • USAC officials earn about $9 per hour – plus mileage. Works out about $1 of your entry fee for results, running the race, keeping things safe and on time, etc.

        The 15 minute rule is only really for podiums and payouts. If judges make a mistake, they will almost always correct things, even days after. Just let them know there’s a problem.

        Trying to score a race with more than one category racing simultaneously is horrendously hard. Especially with a large range in abilities and a shorter course. It’s simply very difficult to deal with all the lapped riders in different categories AND provide prompt results. In such a case it’s a miracle to get results out in 40 minutes. there will often be delays of several hours. Sometimes it’s just better to take all the scoresheets home and go through them when not under pressure to get on top the next race.

        You have some of the most competent and conscientious race officials in the country at CCC races. Be grateful for them

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    • Not to beat a dead horse….but let me grab my club…

      :Heckle on: Assuming you’re new to this as most realize within short order that verballing beating up people who are essentially volunteers because you want to make sure that they correct place your WAYYYYY off the podium performance in this hobby we have is usually something we outgrow within the first few races.

      If you’re not on the podium or payout then chalk it up to a good effort and enjoy the day. If it impacts your series points and its REALLY important to your co-workers and family that you are firmly in the correct upteenth place overall in the semi-old-guys-with-families-and-careers category in a spot that is already marginalized then by all means….protest away…it’s your “right”.

      Now assuming that your position was far enough back that your podium placement, series points, and future Pro-tour sponsorship opportunities were not really impacted then I suggest asking the officials about your placement when you think it’s REALLY off (example: Hey guys – you have me in the payout. I was lapped. can you pull me out of there, or Hey I did finish – as in your example – and the DNF is really messing up my crossresults staging position by at least 1 spot on the last row). Otherwise, stop by the officials when they have a second, shake their hand, and thank them for working as hard as they do to ensure that all us crazy people get to run around in parks on the weekends in our pajamas.

      :Heckle off:

      Just my $0.02

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      • I agree. If it doesn’t affect the podium or payout just wait and email them outside of the race when they don’t have 10 more important things to worry about at once. With a little persistence it will get resolved.

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        • We do ask that you try to resolve any scoring errors at the race venue as soon as you can after results are posted. Changing results after everyone leaves for the day is harder on everyone. Just be patient. The USAC officials want to get everything correct too.

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  4. I expected way more costumes, especially in the 4/5 race. some of them were really great though! the course was a lot better than last year, all of the changes were perfect. the sticky mud was a great addition, thanks nature.

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    • Cat 4/5 Race:

      Course changes that I saw during the 4/5 race yesterday:

      1) A course marking post was planted, sticking straight up, in the middle of the course on the back side headed into the single barrier. I saw a rider hit the post because he could not see it as he swung out to pass the rider in front of him. – 2:37 in the video.

      2) A 10-12″ rock was placed in the middle of the worn in track on the muddy uphill switchbacks going up past the rocks. Someone graciously removed it after being alerted to it. -4:44 in the video

      3) The course was rerouted through the tall weeds going into the first section of single track in between the first and second laps. The line was totally changed after we’d already done one lap. It was really confusing trying to figure out what was going on because you were expecting the course to look the same as the lap before. 9:06 in the video – rider that went down from the change 9:10

      4) The kids standing by the exit of the first set of single track took it upon themselves to gather pine needles and mound them on the table top before exiting the woods. They were bragging that they’d done it as I rode by. 9:20 in the video

      These weren’t funny or entertaining and step way past good natured fun. If you see someone changing the course, tell them to knock it off.

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  5. First time racing at Campton. Really liked the course. It had a little bit of everything, including a festive Halloween atmosphere. Two big thumbs up for the Bicycle Heaven guys for putting on a great event.

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  6. Thank you Ryan Handley for pointing out all the BULLSHIT that was done to the course for the 4/5 race. Guy behind me diffinately hit that course marker in the middle of the course. I saw a buch of people flip over in the brush after the course was re-routed.

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    • Thanks guys for pointing all of this out. Alterations to the course by anyone outside of the race director or USAC officials is wrong and completely unacceptable. Please report people you see making these changes to the USAC officials and the riders will be DQ’d if they were racing and/or ejected from the race venue.

      However, please note the broken course tape prior to the single barrier and the worn grass to the right. That plastic stake was at one point the left edge of the course before riders ahead of you broke the tape and it became unraveled from the stakes. Also, it is possible the rock was pushed out into the course by riders riding over the rocks. We have seen this happen in years past.

      We’re not sure what happened with the tall weeds section and the kids with the pine needles were clearly in the wrong.

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